2022-04-29 chat
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10:47:52 From Adrienne to Everyone:
Hi, Jeff!
10:48:35 From Adrienne to Everyone:
The email to SSA's suggested joining early, because there's a limited number of slots in the ZOOM!
10:48:39 From Jeff Nee to Everyone:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1KTvvBHwIFyLfONFrekYUa42PceyMCXNWZ60O0GWg3dc/edit?usp=sharing
10:48:51 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
Hello! Very excited about JavaScript. I am a NASA/JPL Solar System Ambassador, Citizen Scientist with The GLOBE Program using Satellite Imagery, Data Visualization for students with autonomous robotics, drone competition and Earth Life Science, Space Exploration.
10:49:02 From Adrienne to Everyone:
Hey, Lisa!
10:49:52 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
Q: Should we use an Apple computer for JavaScript Coding?
10:55:09 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
Sharing the Google Drive link in the link is not the correct information.
10:55:19 From Adrienne to Everyone:
And he's baaaaaack!!!!
10:55:56 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
There are several text editors available. Which one do you prefer? Node.js, ?
10:56:06 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
Uh-Oh.
10:56:27 From Rosemary Walling to Everyone:
Rosemary Walling, Marie Drake Planetarium, Juneau, AK
10:56:44 From Jeff Nee to Everyone:
10:57:46 From Jeff Nee to Everyone:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1KTvvBHwIFyLfONFrekYUa42PceyMCXNWZ60O0GWg3dc/edit?usp=sharing
10:58:32 From Tish Bresee to Everyone:
Hi Jeff :)
10:58:54 From Adrienne to Everyone:
Failure is possible!
11:00:17 From John Gus Erickson to Everyone:
John Erickson, Berkeley/Richmond CA
11:01:45 From Troy (SSIA Technologies) to Everyone:
All good!
11:01:45 From Michelle Stella Riordan to Everyone:
no
11:01:51 From Isaac Osores to Everyone:
so far so good!
11:01:54 From Oswaldo Francisco Ferrucci Silva to Everyone:
no
11:02:02 From Iñaki Ordóñez-Etxeberria to Everyone:
Hi all!
11:02:54 From Adrienne to Everyone:
hello!
11:03:00 From Alan Gould PPA Treasurer to Everyone:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1KTvvBHwIFyLfONFrekYUa42PceyMCXNWZ60O0GWg3dc/edit?usp=sharing
11:04:28 From Adrienne to Everyone:
good philosophy!
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11:04:49 From Troy (SSIA Technologies) to Everyone:
Troy Whitmer
11:04:51 From Scott Turnbull to Everyone:
Scott Turnbull Vermont SSA
11:04:53 From Troy (SSIA Technologies) to Everyone:
SSIA Technologies, NH
11:04:59 From Nick Strobel to Everyone:
Nick Strobel, Bakersfield College
11:05:01 From Todd.Ullery to Everyone:
York PA
11:05:02 From Bob Swanson to Everyone:
Bob Swanson -- Mississippi State University (Dept of Physics & Astronomy)
11:05:06 From Saher Haroon to Everyone:
SSA Saher Haroon, Louisville, KY!
11:05:07 From Iñaki Ordóñez-Etxeberria to Everyone:
Iñaki from Pamplona (Spain)
11:05:08 From Shane Krpata (he/her/they) to Everyone:
Berkeley, CA
11:05:09 From Carol Abbott to Everyone:
Carol Abbott SSA, Central Ohio
11:05:10 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
Lisa Gethard, SSA, Charleston, SC, USA.
11:05:11 From James Bauman to Everyone:
Hello! James Bauman, North Penn Planetarium, Lansdale, PA
11:05:13 From Dave to Alan Gould PPA Treasurer(Direct Message):
David High, SSA Minnesota
11:05:13 From Cal Powell to Everyone:
Cal Powell, Alexandria, VA
11:05:14 From Michelle Stella Riordan to Everyone:
Michelle Stella Riordan - Southern NJ
11:05:14 From Isaac Osores to Everyone:
Isaac Osores, SSA, East Brunswick, New Jersey
11:05:14 From Katie Iadanza to Everyone:
Katie Iadanza, Lakewood WA
11:05:17 From Alan Gould PPA Treasurer to Everyone:
Alan Gould, Berkeley California USA
11:05:17 From Tish Bresee to Everyone:
Tish Bresee from SSA and Kopernik Observatory, New York
11:05:27 From marc wagnon to Everyone:
Marc Wagnon, NYC
11:05:29 From Jason Trump to Everyone:
Jason Trump, Provo UT
11:05:29 From Rosanne Sachson to Everyone:
Hi JN...SSA
11:05:32 From Alan Gould PPA Treasurer to Everyone:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1KTvvBHwIFyLfONFrekYUa42PceyMCXNWZ60O0GWg3dc/edit?usp=sharing
11:05:32 From Owen Brockmole to Everyone:
Owen Brockmole, Indiana
11:05:39 From Katrina Marslender to Everyone:
Katrina Marslender, Bell Museum, MN
11:05:44 From Vicky Tatum to Everyone:
Victoria, Ellijay Georgia
11:05:46 From Jon Bell to Everyone:
Thanks, Alan, I knew I was forgetting something! Jon U. Bell, Director, Hallstrom Planetarium, Indian River State College, Fort Pierce, Florida, USA, and I know nothing at all about Java.
11:05:57 From Nicholas M Guydosh-Kopernik Observatory to Everyone:
From Nick Guydosh - Kopernik Observatory & Science Center
11:05:58 From Oswaldo Francisco Ferrucci Silva to Everyone:
STEAM educator for the Girls Scouts of Southern Nevada
11:05:59 From P Cirillo to Everyone:
Paul Cirillo SSA-NJ
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11:06:12 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
Perfect timing for a HS Job Fair scheduled for tomorrow April 30.
11:06:55 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
Great Point!
11:07:41 From Tish Bresee to Everyone:
Jeff - is this program for all planetaria modes?
11:07:53 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
Q: JavaScript is good for frontend and backend coding?
11:08:08 From Tish Bresee to Everyone:
Yes
11:08:42 From Tish Bresee to Everyone:
We have a digitarium
11:08:59 From Tish Bresee to Everyone:
Thank you
11:09:25 From Intuitive Planetarium to Everyone:
We have to drop off the meeting, but we are excited for the recording! Thanks!
11:09:59 From Alan Gould PPA Treasurer to Everyone:
javascript examples https://informal.jpl.nasa.gov/museum/sites/default/files/conversations/20220429-Nee-JavaScriptPrimer-ExampleFiles_ver2.zip
11:12:36 From Nick Strobel to Everyone:
I have DreamWeaver and choose the “Code” tab.
11:15:31 From Tish Bresee to Everyone:
Jeff, you are a good speaker. and so forgiving.
11:16:51 From P Cirillo to Everyone:
36
11:17:13 From Todd.Ullery to Everyone:
Hello, World! My product is 36.
11:17:14 From P Cirillo to Everyone:
Hello World
11:17:21 From Isaac Osores to Everyone:
my product is 36
11:17:22 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
Q: "utf-8" equals size of font?
11:17:29 From Saher Haroon to Everyone:
my product is 36
11:17:32 From Carol Abbott to Everyone:
Hello World! My product is 36.
11:17:56 From Adrienne to Everyone:
for "newbies" like me - how would this be used as SSA's?
11:19:16 From Saher Haroon to Everyone:
Great Q, Adrienne
11:19:47 From Carol Abbott to Everyone:
Adrienne, Years ago, I took a Java Script class in Physics, and we created a simulation of a three-body gravity problem. It takes a bit more scripting Knowledge, and some physics knowledge, but you could use this to model asteroids or Jupiters moons, or etc. As one example.
11:20:00 From Carol Abbott to Everyone:
I'm an SSA, also.
11:20:14 From Saher Haroon to Everyone:
Thanks, Carol!
11:20:58 From Mari Westerhausen to Everyone:
is this recorded? I'm just getting in and out as I have classes in between... thanks
11:21:00 From Nick Strobel to Everyone:
professional coders, they’ll need to learn HTML5
11:21:10 From Todd.Ullery to Everyone:
You will make much more money in programming than in teaching astronomy
11:21:31 From Saher Haroon to Everyone:
Yes, Mari, it is.
11:22:01 From Rosemary Walling to Everyone:
why the empty? <h1></h1>
11:22:40 From Adrienne to Everyone:
Thanks, Carol. So this modeling would then be used in a planetarium show? As far as how the images appear? move?
11:22:40 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
That's right FORTRAN, COBAL is still marketable.
11:22:49 From Todd.Ullery to Everyone:
Rosemary, the <h1> tags are placeholder to use when doing the querySelector
11:22:51 From Scott Turnbull to Everyone:
I work as higher ed research staff in software systems. New code is written in Fortran all the time.
11:23:34 From Carol Abbott to Everyone:
Fortran, Ha! I wrote my Mechanical Engineering Master's Degree heat transfer analysis with a Fortran card deck. Won't tell you all when that was.
11:24:23 From Todd.Ullery to Everyone:
Don't trust comments! They often are not updated with the code.
11:24:36 From Scott Turnbull to Everyone:
That card deck was probably just before I began my engineering studies. We were taught card skills for backward compatibility.
11:25:00 From Carol Abbott to Everyone:
I saved the deck. Still have it.....
11:25:50 From Adrienne to Everyone:
@Carol that makes me think of the photo of Margaret Hamilton next to her stack of printed code for Apollo missions!
11:27:16 From Carol Abbott to Everyone:
Adrienne, I could pose for a photo like that. Although the building I was in, Robinson Lab at OSU, is long gone.
11:27:40 From Holly Ryer to Everyone:
If working in Notepad, what format should I save in I order to make the code work.
11:28:14 From Todd.Ullery to Everyone:
Holly, save the file as html
11:29:15 From Nick Strobel to Everyone:
raw text
11:30:41 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
Note: This is not working on Safari Browser.
11:31:24 From Nick Strobel to Everyone:
@Lisa: It works in my Safari
11:31:31 From Alan Gould PPA Treasurer to Everyone:
If you came in late, the slides with presenter notes are at https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1KTvvBHwIFyLfONFrekYUa42PceyMCXNWZ60O0GWg3dc/edit?usp=sharing
11:32:44 From Nick Strobel to Everyone:
universe.earth.life.meaning.42
11:33:09 From Adrienne to Everyone:
so long, and thanks for all the fish!
11:33:46 From Adrienne to Everyone:
Are there any good sites that explain how NASA uses JavaScript for sites?
11:33:51 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
Loops!
11:34:44 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
The == is also used.
11:35:32 From Adrienne to Everyone:
thanks!
11:36:39 From Jon Bell to Everyone:
I'm sorry to have to leave, the game is afoot here at the Hallstrom Planetarium. Thanks for a great presentation Jeff, I will review it later!
11:36:40 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
Mozilla is great community!
11:38:12 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
Safari is unsupported Browser. FYI.
11:38:43 From Saher Haroon to Everyone:
53 Yaay!
11:41:18 From Todd.Ullery to Everyone:
Games are great for that.
11:42:53 From Carol Abbott to Everyone:
I haven't done Java for a long time. I am glad to know that testing and debugging can be handled from today's browsers. Makes it more accessible.
11:44:31 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
YES. API Appliction Programming Interface.
11:45:30 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
Jeff, What if we are members of a Data Science group with API SLACK Channel group? Can we use API interface with our content?
11:48:26 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
OpenSpace is GREAT!
11:48:53 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
SLACK Channel, GitHub repositories, etc.
11:50:15 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
@Jeff Nice!
11:50:17 From Nick Strobel to Everyone:
https://www.openspaceproject.com
12:00:56 From Rosemary Walling to Everyone:
Is there a place to learn about do's and don't with respect to security when putting javascript which accepts input, into public web pages?
12:02:26 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
Yep! HS students learn Full Stack Coding during the summer and became entrepreneurs---and graduated from HS.
12:02:55 From Nick Strobel to Everyone:
Learning to be very logical and detail oriented
12:03:33 From Adrienne to Everyone:
python is used with sonifications
12:04:30 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
CISA and GSA Section 508.
12:05:24 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
COPPA, EULA Guidelines to comply with online for FCC.
12:06:02 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
Content and Creation must include accessibility for BVI, DHH, ADA, ASD.
12:06:23 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
CISA is a Cybersecurity Forum.
12:08:04 From Adrienne to Everyone:
What age students might work with JavaScript? Middle school and high school? Younger?
12:09:12 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
Start off early age. Some young students are high functioning level.
12:09:48 From Adrienne to Everyone:
never too young to start with coding!
12:09:53 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
There is a NASA N3 Pilot Program for Neurodivergent High School students this Summer.
12:09:59 From Mari Westerhausen to Everyone:
Mari Westerhausen Mesa, Arizona
12:10:09 From Saher Haroon to Everyone:
Many middle and high schoolers already know it, it’s pretty amazing
12:10:10 From Mari Westerhausen to Everyone:
Thanks for sharing this ...
12:10:23 From Vicky Tatum to Everyone:
My son loves the book series Secret Coders. Teacher binary coding to kids.
12:10:35 From Mike Buttitta - NJ DOE STEM Coordinator to Everyone:
Mike Buttitta - NJ Dept of Ed - STEM Coordinator and NASA Solar System Ambassador.
12:10:47 From Mike Buttitta - NJ DOE STEM Coordinator to Everyone:
Thnak you!
12:10:59 From Mike Buttitta - NJ DOE STEM Coordinator to Everyone:
Thank You!
12:11:02 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
This is really amazing with programs such as NASA NEMO Project.
12:11:54 From Mari Westerhausen to Everyone:
where is that found?
12:11:55 From Adrienne to Everyone:
similar "aha!" discovery moments in teaching the arts as well! and learning!
12:12:03 From Shane Krpata (he/her/they) to Everyone:
Thank you!
12:12:47 From Adrienne to Everyone:
Thanks again, Jeff, for putting this program together and Alan for moderating the chat. Take care everyone!
12:14:50 From Nick Strobel to Everyone:
CSS might help with keeping a site accessible consistently
12:16:09 From Saher Haroon to Everyone:
Thank you, Jeff and Alan.
12:17:37 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
Question: How can we include a QR Code in these pages so the Public may Scan the page with their phones to download information. OMB has a decreased budget for allowing paper content.
12:18:05 From Rosemary Walling to Everyone:
the program atom color codes as well.
12:18:51 From Mari Westerhausen to Everyone:
Thank you so much for your presentation. Have a great weekend.
12:19:59 From Nick Strobel to Everyone:
Always comment the code because 6 months later, you won’t remember what the code was supposed to do
12:22:42 From Nick Strobel to Everyone:
I did coding in C for my dissertation and commenting my own code was essential for the late night sessions.
12:29:01 From Rosemary Walling to Everyone:
still recording?
12:29:22 From James Bauman to Everyone:
Thank you for a great program!
12:29:23 From Alan Gould PPA Treasurer to Everyone:
yes, still recording
12:29:49 From Adrienne to Everyone:
somehow providing a link to a resource page?
12:30:46 From Adrienne to Everyone:
the Earth Day poster has lots of QR codes embedded in it
12:31:04 From Nick Strobel to Everyone:
NASA is totally public, so not being able to link to any NASA page seems bizarre!
12:31:41 From Jeff Nee to Everyone:
jnee@jpl.nasa.gov
12:31:57 From Nick Strobel to Everyone:
If I link to a NASA site on my website, then I’m doing something wrong?
12:32:00 From Adrienne to Everyone:
As SSA's we're not supposed to wear t-shirts, etc with the NASA logo
12:32:07 From Adrienne to Everyone:
when doing SSA programs
12:34:03 From Adrienne to Everyone:
Thanks again! Take care!
12:34:08 From Iñaki Ordóñez-Etxeberria (Pamplona Planetarium) to Everyone:
thanks Jeff, it has been a great workshop!
12:34:21 From Rosemary Walling to Everyone:
Thank you!
12:34:29 From Oswaldo Francisco Ferrucci Silva to Everyone:
thanks
12:34:51 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:
Thank you so very much everyone!