2022-04-29 chat

Slides at

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1KTvvBHwIFyLfONFrekYUa42PceyMCXNWZ60O0GWg3dc/edit#slide=id.g1256f66f203_2_146


Sample javascript at

https://informal.jpl.nasa.gov/museum/sites/default/files/conversations/20220429-Nee-JavaScriptPrimer-ExampleFiles_ver2.zip


10:47:52 From Adrienne to Everyone:

Hi, Jeff!

10:48:35 From Adrienne to Everyone:

The email to SSA's suggested joining early, because there's a limited number of slots in the ZOOM!

10:48:39 From Jeff Nee to Everyone:

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1KTvvBHwIFyLfONFrekYUa42PceyMCXNWZ60O0GWg3dc/edit?usp=sharing

10:48:51 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

Hello! Very excited about JavaScript. I am a NASA/JPL Solar System Ambassador, Citizen Scientist with The GLOBE Program using Satellite Imagery, Data Visualization for students with autonomous robotics, drone competition and Earth Life Science, Space Exploration.

10:49:02 From Adrienne to Everyone:

Hey, Lisa!

10:49:52 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

Q: Should we use an Apple computer for JavaScript Coding?

10:55:09 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

Sharing the Google Drive link in the link is not the correct information.

10:55:19 From Adrienne to Everyone:

And he's baaaaaack!!!!

10:55:56 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

There are several text editors available. Which one do you prefer? Node.js, ?

10:56:06 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

Uh-Oh.

10:56:27 From Rosemary Walling to Everyone:

Rosemary Walling, Marie Drake Planetarium, Juneau, AK

10:56:44 From Jeff Nee to Everyone:

https://informal.jpl.nasa.gov/museum/sites/default/files/conversations/20220429-Nee-JavaScriptPrimer-ExampleFiles_ver2.zip

10:57:46 From Jeff Nee to Everyone:

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1KTvvBHwIFyLfONFrekYUa42PceyMCXNWZ60O0GWg3dc/edit?usp=sharing

10:58:32 From Tish Bresee to Everyone:

Hi Jeff :)

10:58:54 From Adrienne to Everyone:

Failure is possible!

11:00:17 From John Gus Erickson to Everyone:

John Erickson, Berkeley/Richmond CA

11:01:45 From Troy (SSIA Technologies) to Everyone:

All good!

11:01:45 From Michelle Stella Riordan to Everyone:

no

11:01:51 From Isaac Osores to Everyone:

so far so good!

11:01:54 From Oswaldo Francisco Ferrucci Silva to Everyone:

no

11:02:02 From Iñaki Ordóñez-Etxeberria to Everyone:

Hi all!

11:02:54 From Adrienne to Everyone:

hello!

11:03:00 From Alan Gould PPA Treasurer to Everyone:

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1KTvvBHwIFyLfONFrekYUa42PceyMCXNWZ60O0GWg3dc/edit?usp=sharing

11:04:28 From Adrienne to Everyone:

good philosophy!

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[SIGN IN SHEET (CHAT)]

11:04:49 From Troy (SSIA Technologies) to Everyone:

Troy Whitmer

11:04:51 From Scott Turnbull to Everyone:

Scott Turnbull Vermont SSA

11:04:53 From Troy (SSIA Technologies) to Everyone:

SSIA Technologies, NH

11:04:59 From Nick Strobel to Everyone:

Nick Strobel, Bakersfield College

11:05:01 From Todd.Ullery to Everyone:

York PA

11:05:02 From Bob Swanson to Everyone:

Bob Swanson -- Mississippi State University (Dept of Physics & Astronomy)

11:05:06 From Saher Haroon to Everyone:

SSA Saher Haroon, Louisville, KY!

11:05:07 From Iñaki Ordóñez-Etxeberria to Everyone:

Iñaki from Pamplona (Spain)

11:05:08 From Shane Krpata (he/her/they) to Everyone:

Berkeley, CA

11:05:09 From Carol Abbott to Everyone:

Carol Abbott SSA, Central Ohio

11:05:10 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

Lisa Gethard, SSA, Charleston, SC, USA.

11:05:11 From James Bauman to Everyone:

Hello! James Bauman, North Penn Planetarium, Lansdale, PA

11:05:13 From Dave to Alan Gould PPA Treasurer(Direct Message):

David High, SSA Minnesota

11:05:13 From Cal Powell to Everyone:

Cal Powell, Alexandria, VA

11:05:14 From Michelle Stella Riordan to Everyone:

Michelle Stella Riordan - Southern NJ

11:05:14 From Isaac Osores to Everyone:

Isaac Osores, SSA, East Brunswick, New Jersey

11:05:14 From Katie Iadanza to Everyone:

Katie Iadanza, Lakewood WA

11:05:17 From Alan Gould PPA Treasurer to Everyone:

Alan Gould, Berkeley California USA

11:05:17 From Tish Bresee to Everyone:

Tish Bresee from SSA and Kopernik Observatory, New York

11:05:27 From marc wagnon to Everyone:

Marc Wagnon, NYC

11:05:29 From Jason Trump to Everyone:

Jason Trump, Provo UT

11:05:29 From Rosanne Sachson to Everyone:

Hi JN...SSA

11:05:32 From Alan Gould PPA Treasurer to Everyone:

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1KTvvBHwIFyLfONFrekYUa42PceyMCXNWZ60O0GWg3dc/edit?usp=sharing

11:05:32 From Owen Brockmole to Everyone:

Owen Brockmole, Indiana

11:05:39 From Katrina Marslender to Everyone:

Katrina Marslender, Bell Museum, MN

11:05:44 From Vicky Tatum to Everyone:

Victoria, Ellijay Georgia

11:05:46 From Jon Bell to Everyone:

Thanks, Alan, I knew I was forgetting something! Jon U. Bell, Director, Hallstrom Planetarium, Indian River State College, Fort Pierce, Florida, USA, and I know nothing at all about Java.

11:05:57 From Nicholas M Guydosh-Kopernik Observatory to Everyone:

From Nick Guydosh - Kopernik Observatory & Science Center

11:05:58 From Oswaldo Francisco Ferrucci Silva to Everyone:

STEAM educator for the Girls Scouts of Southern Nevada

11:05:59 From P Cirillo to Everyone:

Paul Cirillo SSA-NJ

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11:06:12 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

Perfect timing for a HS Job Fair scheduled for tomorrow April 30.

11:06:55 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

Great Point!

11:07:41 From Tish Bresee to Everyone:

Jeff - is this program for all planetaria modes?

11:07:53 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

Q: JavaScript is good for frontend and backend coding?

11:08:08 From Tish Bresee to Everyone:

Yes

11:08:42 From Tish Bresee to Everyone:

We have a digitarium

11:08:59 From Tish Bresee to Everyone:

Thank you

11:09:25 From Intuitive Planetarium to Everyone:

We have to drop off the meeting, but we are excited for the recording! Thanks!

11:09:59 From Alan Gould PPA Treasurer to Everyone:

javascript examples https://informal.jpl.nasa.gov/museum/sites/default/files/conversations/20220429-Nee-JavaScriptPrimer-ExampleFiles_ver2.zip

11:12:36 From Nick Strobel to Everyone:

I have DreamWeaver and choose the “Code” tab.

11:15:31 From Tish Bresee to Everyone:

Jeff, you are a good speaker. and so forgiving.

11:16:51 From P Cirillo to Everyone:

36

11:17:13 From Todd.Ullery to Everyone:

Hello, World! My product is 36.

11:17:14 From P Cirillo to Everyone:

Hello World

11:17:21 From Isaac Osores to Everyone:

my product is 36

11:17:22 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

Q: "utf-8" equals size of font?

11:17:29 From Saher Haroon to Everyone:

my product is 36

11:17:32 From Carol Abbott to Everyone:

Hello World! My product is 36.

11:17:56 From Adrienne to Everyone:

for "newbies" like me - how would this be used as SSA's?

11:19:16 From Saher Haroon to Everyone:

Great Q, Adrienne

11:19:47 From Carol Abbott to Everyone:

Adrienne, Years ago, I took a Java Script class in Physics, and we created a simulation of a three-body gravity problem. It takes a bit more scripting Knowledge, and some physics knowledge, but you could use this to model asteroids or Jupiters moons, or etc. As one example.

11:20:00 From Carol Abbott to Everyone:

I'm an SSA, also.

11:20:14 From Saher Haroon to Everyone:

Thanks, Carol!

11:20:58 From Mari Westerhausen to Everyone:

is this recorded? I'm just getting in and out as I have classes in between... thanks

11:21:00 From Nick Strobel to Everyone:

professional coders, they’ll need to learn HTML5

11:21:10 From Todd.Ullery to Everyone:

You will make much more money in programming than in teaching astronomy

11:21:31 From Saher Haroon to Everyone:

Yes, Mari, it is.

11:22:01 From Rosemary Walling to Everyone:

why the empty? <h1></h1>

11:22:40 From Adrienne to Everyone:

Thanks, Carol. So this modeling would then be used in a planetarium show? As far as how the images appear? move?

11:22:40 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

That's right FORTRAN, COBAL is still marketable.

11:22:49 From Todd.Ullery to Everyone:

Rosemary, the <h1> tags are placeholder to use when doing the querySelector

11:22:51 From Scott Turnbull to Everyone:

I work as higher ed research staff in software systems. New code is written in Fortran all the time.

11:23:34 From Carol Abbott to Everyone:

Fortran, Ha! I wrote my Mechanical Engineering Master's Degree heat transfer analysis with a Fortran card deck. Won't tell you all when that was.

11:24:23 From Todd.Ullery to Everyone:

Don't trust comments! They often are not updated with the code.

11:24:36 From Scott Turnbull to Everyone:

That card deck was probably just before I began my engineering studies. We were taught card skills for backward compatibility.

11:25:00 From Carol Abbott to Everyone:

I saved the deck. Still have it.....

11:25:50 From Adrienne to Everyone:

@Carol that makes me think of the photo of Margaret Hamilton next to her stack of printed code for Apollo missions!

11:27:16 From Carol Abbott to Everyone:

Adrienne, I could pose for a photo like that. Although the building I was in, Robinson Lab at OSU, is long gone.

11:27:40 From Holly Ryer to Everyone:

If working in Notepad, what format should I save in I order to make the code work.

11:28:14 From Todd.Ullery to Everyone:

Holly, save the file as html

11:29:15 From Nick Strobel to Everyone:

raw text

11:30:41 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

Note: This is not working on Safari Browser.

11:31:24 From Nick Strobel to Everyone:

@Lisa: It works in my Safari

11:31:31 From Alan Gould PPA Treasurer to Everyone:

If you came in late, the slides with presenter notes are at https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1KTvvBHwIFyLfONFrekYUa42PceyMCXNWZ60O0GWg3dc/edit?usp=sharing

11:32:44 From Nick Strobel to Everyone:

universe.earth.life.meaning.42

11:33:09 From Adrienne to Everyone:

so long, and thanks for all the fish!

11:33:46 From Adrienne to Everyone:

Are there any good sites that explain how NASA uses JavaScript for sites?

11:33:51 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

Loops!

11:34:44 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

The == is also used.

11:35:32 From Adrienne to Everyone:

thanks!

11:36:39 From Jon Bell to Everyone:

I'm sorry to have to leave, the game is afoot here at the Hallstrom Planetarium. Thanks for a great presentation Jeff, I will review it later!

11:36:40 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

Mozilla is great community!

11:38:12 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

Safari is unsupported Browser. FYI.

11:38:43 From Saher Haroon to Everyone:

53 Yaay!

11:41:18 From Todd.Ullery to Everyone:

Games are great for that.

11:42:53 From Carol Abbott to Everyone:

I haven't done Java for a long time. I am glad to know that testing and debugging can be handled from today's browsers. Makes it more accessible.

11:44:31 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

YES. API Appliction Programming Interface.

11:45:30 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

Jeff, What if we are members of a Data Science group with API SLACK Channel group? Can we use API interface with our content?

11:48:26 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

OpenSpace is GREAT!

11:48:53 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

SLACK Channel, GitHub repositories, etc.

11:50:15 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

@Jeff Nice!

11:50:17 From Nick Strobel to Everyone:

https://www.openspaceproject.com

12:00:56 From Rosemary Walling to Everyone:

Is there a place to learn about do's and don't with respect to security when putting javascript which accepts input, into public web pages?

12:02:26 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

Yep! HS students learn Full Stack Coding during the summer and became entrepreneurs---and graduated from HS.

12:02:55 From Nick Strobel to Everyone:

Learning to be very logical and detail oriented

12:03:33 From Adrienne to Everyone:

python is used with sonifications

12:04:30 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

CISA and GSA Section 508.

12:05:24 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

COPPA, EULA Guidelines to comply with online for FCC.

12:06:02 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

Content and Creation must include accessibility for BVI, DHH, ADA, ASD.

12:06:23 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

CISA is a Cybersecurity Forum.

12:08:04 From Adrienne to Everyone:

What age students might work with JavaScript? Middle school and high school? Younger?

12:09:12 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

Start off early age. Some young students are high functioning level.

12:09:48 From Adrienne to Everyone:

never too young to start with coding!

12:09:53 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

There is a NASA N3 Pilot Program for Neurodivergent High School students this Summer.

12:09:59 From Mari Westerhausen to Everyone:

Mari Westerhausen Mesa, Arizona

12:10:09 From Saher Haroon to Everyone:

Many middle and high schoolers already know it, it’s pretty amazing

12:10:10 From Mari Westerhausen to Everyone:

Thanks for sharing this ...

12:10:23 From Vicky Tatum to Everyone:

My son loves the book series Secret Coders. Teacher binary coding to kids.

12:10:35 From Mike Buttitta - NJ DOE STEM Coordinator to Everyone:

Mike Buttitta - NJ Dept of Ed - STEM Coordinator and NASA Solar System Ambassador.

12:10:47 From Mike Buttitta - NJ DOE STEM Coordinator to Everyone:

Thnak you!

12:10:59 From Mike Buttitta - NJ DOE STEM Coordinator to Everyone:

Thank You!

12:11:02 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

This is really amazing with programs such as NASA NEMO Project.

12:11:54 From Mari Westerhausen to Everyone:

where is that found?

12:11:55 From Adrienne to Everyone:

similar "aha!" discovery moments in teaching the arts as well! and learning!

12:12:03 From Shane Krpata (he/her/they) to Everyone:

Thank you!

12:12:47 From Adrienne to Everyone:

Thanks again, Jeff, for putting this program together and Alan for moderating the chat. Take care everyone!

12:14:50 From Nick Strobel to Everyone:

CSS might help with keeping a site accessible consistently

12:16:09 From Saher Haroon to Everyone:

Thank you, Jeff and Alan.

12:17:37 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

Question: How can we include a QR Code in these pages so the Public may Scan the page with their phones to download information. OMB has a decreased budget for allowing paper content.

12:18:05 From Rosemary Walling to Everyone:

the program atom color codes as well.

12:18:51 From Mari Westerhausen to Everyone:

Thank you so much for your presentation. Have a great weekend.

12:19:59 From Nick Strobel to Everyone:

Always comment the code because 6 months later, you won’t remember what the code was supposed to do

12:22:42 From Nick Strobel to Everyone:

I did coding in C for my dissertation and commenting my own code was essential for the late night sessions.

12:29:01 From Rosemary Walling to Everyone:

still recording?

12:29:22 From James Bauman to Everyone:

Thank you for a great program!

12:29:23 From Alan Gould PPA Treasurer to Everyone:

yes, still recording

12:29:49 From Adrienne to Everyone:

somehow providing a link to a resource page?

12:30:46 From Adrienne to Everyone:

the Earth Day poster has lots of QR codes embedded in it

12:31:04 From Nick Strobel to Everyone:

NASA is totally public, so not being able to link to any NASA page seems bizarre!

12:31:41 From Jeff Nee to Everyone:

jnee@jpl.nasa.gov

12:31:57 From Nick Strobel to Everyone:

If I link to a NASA site on my website, then I’m doing something wrong?

12:32:00 From Adrienne to Everyone:

As SSA's we're not supposed to wear t-shirts, etc with the NASA logo

12:32:07 From Adrienne to Everyone:

when doing SSA programs

12:34:03 From Adrienne to Everyone:

Thanks again! Take care!

12:34:08 From Iñaki Ordóñez-Etxeberria (Pamplona Planetarium) to Everyone:

thanks Jeff, it has been a great workshop!

12:34:21 From Rosemary Walling to Everyone:

Thank you!

12:34:29 From Oswaldo Francisco Ferrucci Silva to Everyone:

thanks

12:34:51 From Lisa Gethard to Everyone:

Thank you so very much everyone!